Mar. 28, 2016

LRT vs Subway

S J Xxxxxx Xxxxxx [on Facebook re:  My proposed monorail] “How much is it expected to be cost?  I like the concept of it, but for me I question if it's realistic and feesible [feasible]

The cost for monorails is about the same as LRTs

The average ballpark costs (in very round numbers) to build each mode of transit are as follows:

-        Subways - $300 million/km *

-        LRTs - $100 million/km *

-        Monorails - $100 million/km *

* The costs vary considerably depending on many variables – The cost for monorails vary depending on the system used

The cost for the Eglinton Crosstown LRT is running much higher than the average at about $5.3 billion – That works out to $278/km - The final tally will likely be much higher - So; we could just about have had a subway for that – With the LRT we lose three lanes of roadway, we have a far inferior system, they will still need buses because the stops are far apart, but; it sounds sexy, so we bought into it - See http://www.thecrosstown.ca/the-project

With regard to LRT vs Subway for connection of the Sheppard Subway to Scarborough Centre; An LRT was selected over a subway in 2007 – This has since been put on hold

I have done my own present value analysis that shows that the LRT will actually cost more than a subway

-        The cost of a subway-LRT transitional station at Don Mills and Sheppard will be almost $1 billion compared to several $100s of millions to update the existing station if a subway were to be built

-        The cost in lost time of a LRT will be well over $1 billion more per subway-LRT transitional station over a period of 30 years per subway-LRT station when compared with all subway

The cost for an LRT in lieu of a subway connecting the Sheppard subway to Scarborough Centre is as follows:

 

Subway Capital Cost - $3 billion

TOTAL COST - SUBWAY - $3 BILLION **

 

LRT Capital Cost - $1 billion

Capital Cost – Subway-LRT Transitional Station at Don Mills and Sheppard – Up to $1 billion

Capital Cost – Subway-LRT Transitional Station at Scarborough Centre – Several $100s of millions

Lost (Waiting) Time Over Thirty (30) Years [Present Value] – At Don Mills and Sheppard Subway-LRT Transitional Station – Over $1 billion

Lost (Waiting) Time Over Thirty (30) Years [Present Value] – At Scarborough Centre Subway-LRT Transitional Station – Over $1 billion

Capital Cost – Subway-LRT Transitional Station at Scarborough Centre – Up to $1 billion

TOTAL COST – SUBWAY/LRT COMINATION – OVER $4 BILLION **

 

** All in 2006/07 dollars

NOTE:  Figures are based on ridership and lost time in transfers between the subway and the SRT (Scarborough RT) at Kennedy and Eglinton over the past 30 years

 

The cost of the Eglinton Crosstown LRT should be proof enough that I’m not that far off - Again; with the LRT we lose three lanes of roadway, we have a far inferior system, they will still need buses because the stops are far apart - Now which would you rather have? – A $3 billion subway, or a $4 billion LRT?

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